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by adam2 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:26 pm

windsnow40 wrote:Check out DaveM on bigwavedave.ca

It is killing me that I haven't been able to try it out yet.

I think Rob is super busy - I also asked him to build me something but he is swamped with his projects.

if it works .... there will be a lot of 28 and other Roberts boards being dusted off!


Even if touchdowns are unpleasant i suspect the reduced swing weight will help you forget about it in a hurry. What do you think the volume is on it now?

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by windsnow40 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:32 am

yeah, I saw those pics of the super short board. My prediction last year was that the size of boards would shrink dramatically (for folks who can actually "do it"). Beginners still need training wheels.

No idea on volume, but I don't really care. I have been waterstarting my 110l Skate and prefer it. As long as I can get the sail out of of the water and upright, I can clamber aboard like a monkey! Light wind waterstarting is something I learned a long time ago and is a skill that translates easily to foiling!

I will post some feedback in about 10 days after I have given it a go!
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by telus022420 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:13 am

Watch this board transformation and how a rocker is made.
https://youtu.be/L--5T3GjFks

Formula conversion:
https://youtu.be/B_ozjz8cBZ0

Foiling on a Freestyle board:
https://youtu.be/vrupMZ1qyrk
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by grantmac » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:15 am

I'm VERY curious about foiling the Skate. Currently using a 122 Kombat with the straps inboard and love the feel. I'm thinking maybe a 110-115L FSW or FS board might be a future "big" board size.
I find with the foil attached that uphauling is much easier for a given board size.
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by adam2 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:30 am

On the topic of conversions check out this old North race kiteboard, it looks like more fun than some of North/Duotone/Fanatic stock windfoil board offerings.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2715049 ... /?sfnsn=mo
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by telus022420 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:47 am

VBlog of an average windsurfing/kiteboarder with technical tips.His latest (38minutes)

https://youtu.be/6HfeuV1G1qs
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by windsnow40 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:16 am

So, finally tested out the Roberts FrankenFoil. here are my log notes:

Day 1:
Maiden voyage of the MFW Custom Roberts FrankenFoil board.

Well ... it works!

The Good: Super stable and easy to flog (foil slog) on. Super light - so easy to carry to and from the water. No / zero swing weight and so it feels really light an neutral in the air. Tuttle box connection means I am less stressed about a Powerbox failure. No "play" in the mounting hardware at all with plumbers tape and Tefgel combo.

The Bad / Ugly: the position of the finbox in relation to straps means that the wing sits further back than is optimal. The wing is still between your feet, but in the "back 3rd" of the zone. What this means is that the ride is more "back foot" than most foil board set ups. It takes some getting used to, but is very odd at first - totally different from the "standard" foil tutotial where you are basically over the front foot with back foot pressure secondary to the stance.

Also (and I knew this) you have to have the mastfoot right at the back of the mast track to get close to the optimum 41/42 inch measurement.

This means you are riding it more like a traditional windsurfing stance.

Once I figured it out it was super fun. With the back foot orientation it actually makes the jibing a little "easier" - when you naturally put back foot pressure on the foil as you head downwind and initiate the turn, it doesn't fly out of the water as much.

I say "easier" because I am not flying around like the pros. However, whether it is a season under the belt or just the board, I will say that the "cheater jibes" are super easy and I think I only wiped out twice over the whole weekend. Having said that, I am not taking risks!

In fact, I only "breached" once the whole weekend. The back foot orientation actually makes it "easier" to control once you are flying.

Overall a very satisfying experiment!
Day 2 on the Frankenfoil.

The wind was Squally in the morning and early afternoon.

I had the lake to myself as I foiled and flogged around. The squalls lured some kites out, and then when it dropped to nothing there were kites all over the water.

The Foil board allowed me to putter around like an old Dabchik sailboat - remember those?

I am totally getting the hang of the setup now and am comfortable up and downwind.

I am guessing volume is around 100 l, because I was under water uphauling with no wind at one stage.

Foiling is the way to go in marginal conditions for sure. Kiters were frustrated and wet!
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by adam2 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:15 pm

That sounds great. Did you get a sense of the board's new volume? How was uphauling?
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by windsnow40 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:45 am

Adam, uh ...

"I am guessing volume is around 100 l, because I was under water uphauling with no wind at one stage."

:lol:
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