Small wave sup vs windsurf

[AlexK]

I am looking for a sup in the 90 liter 7' 5 - 7' 10 range...
I looked at the specs of my older JP FSW and noticed similar specs to the wave sups of today. I believe most wave sups have a slightly flatter deck shape than a windsurf board of same size.
Has anyone had any experience with paddling and surfing a small wave (windsurf) board. And how much different is it vs a surf sup?
Thx

[C36]

I am looking for a sup in the 90 liter 7' 5 - 7' 10 range...
I looked at the specs of my older JP FSW and noticed similar specs to the wave sups of today. I believe most wave sups have a slightly flatter deck shape than a windsurf board of same size.
Has anyone had any experience with paddling and surfing a small wave (windsurf) board. And how much different is it vs a surf sup?
Thx

When I used to live in Ontario people (including myself) would try and 'surf' windsurfing hulls, but I never saw a wave caught on one.

The rocker profile (even on a windsurfing wave board would be too flat and a FSW will be even flatter) and outline (too narrow throughout - nose, belly, tail) would both be all wrong for SUP. What is the width on JP FSW?

I have three boards that are all similar in length and volume, but vary in width and performance/feel. I have wave SUP-sailed the two SUP's but never paddled to the FW.

• 2015 Fanatic AllWave 120 8-3 8'3" x 32" (super user friendly elliptical outline)
• 2013 Fanatic ProWave 119 8-10 HRS 8'10" x 29.25" (way more challenging to position with shortboard outline, but drops are easy-peasy)
• 2015 Fanatic FreeWave 116 TE 7"9" 26" (WAY faster DTL and WS outline)

At 90 liter 7' 5 - 7' 10 you would have to be very small, very skilled or both to make it work as a SUP.

[Michael]

Has anyone had any experience with paddling and surfing a small wave (windsurf) board. And how much different is it vs a surf sup?

I tried it once on my 102L, I don't recommend it. I was paddling prone and it was a lot of work. I can't imagine trying to stand up paddle it. All Dave's points are bang on. Also you would have to refinish your windsurf board as the nonskid does a number on your skin and wetsuit.
My 7'4" hyper nut at 106L is close to the volume of my 102L and there is no comparison, it's a super stable smaller SUP.

At 90 liter 7' 5 - 7' 10 you would have to be very small, very skilled or both to make it work as a SUP.

We know someone with those skills and he is selling his 7'4" 83L SUP, a little smaller than you're looking for but a super nice board! http://bigwavedave.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9643

[AlexK]

Thx guys
All awesome thoughts...
I currently use a 8 4 quatro pro
It is around 120l
I am 70 kg. After 3 years of surfing it I just find it has become such a slug. So I looked at my JP sitting there... at 7 11 24.5 I thought hey I wonder if I should take it to the coast and try sup surfing it?
I agree with all your points for sure however if you check some dims on the small sups they are similar... and so makes a guy think if some conversions could be made. I never use the jp fsw anymore.
Cheers

[AlexK]

Also thx for the link to Dave's board.
Even for him I think it is small. He was using the 92l hypernut this summer out there... lol

[grantmac]

Do you guys think the stability has to do with more volume towards the edges on the SUP? Basically less dome in the deck for a given outline?